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Why do you keep making shit up? First you say "scientific studies" show that children raised by gay parents turn out f*cked up, which I proved wrong (and you conveniently ignored), now you say that Atheism is a religion.
I'll refer you to TheRaisin's most recent post, which offers a definition of 'religion'.
Nepharski, you're a liar. You make shit up to 'prove' your points.
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To be honest, those aforementioned scientific studies were proclaimed on various radio talk shows. I do believe they offered their sources, but I must confess I have forgotten them. If it would please you, an attempt shall be made to locate these said sources.
Also, forgive me, but you seem somewhat overly dramatic here. Religion or otherwise, it makes little difference how Aethism is classified. Either way, it still stands as a belief system.
If you fail to agree with me, that is your right, and I respect any individuals right to their opinion...but surely there is no call for such fowl language.
Now then, my (actual) final statements...
First off, it is folly to argue for or against the nature of Homosexuality, as nobody (myself included) has any facts or information to support their side. I proclaim, "It has never been proved." You proclaim, "It has never been dis-proved." We argue. We exchange insults for information. We end up beating the ever-loving snot out of each other. Basically, we have a lose-lose situation here.
As for morality...where does one learn morality, but in religion? If nothing else, religion is a moral guideline, of sorts. Those of us who remain, or have become, unaffiliated...chose their own morals (NOTE: If such is not the case, feel perfectly free to correct me). My only bone with this, is that it suggests that their is no absolute good or bad, in which case
nothing can ever really be classified as evil. Of course, most all who select their own morals usually select wisely...but such is not always the case.
As such, I see Homosexuality is sinful and immoral. If religion never existed, then (in theory) all morals would be relative. We know this to be incorrect of course (Example: I am most confident that all of us can agree that the taking of another individual's life is wrong).
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Perhaps I've asked this question before, but what exactly are the perceived negative effects of homosexuality? Besides it being "immoral" and against Christianity and whatnot. I mean what are some measurable, real-life negative impacts of it?
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An excellent question, to be sure.
Negative Side Effects of Practicing/Endorsing Homosexuality:
-An increase in serious health problems (disease including but not limited to HIV/AIDS, hepatitis, and rectal cancer; substance abuse; mental illness, including depression and suicide attempts) and hence a siginificant decrease in life expectancy.
-An increase in the incidence of same-sex pedophilic and adult-adolescent sexual activity.
-Significant erosion in ecclesiastical and societal expectations of long-term monogamous relationships and thus a further cheapening of the institutions of marriage and family.
-The annihilation of all societal gender norms, which in turn will normalize the most bizarre elements of the homosexual movement (transsexualism, transvestism) and increase sexual-identity confusion among the young.
-The public, political, educational, professional, and legal marginalization of any (by organizations and individuals) who make known their opposition to homosexual behavior, as the societal equivalent of racists.*
This is an transcript from a book entitled, "The Bible and Homosexual Practice," By Robert A. J. Gagnon (Copyrigth 2001 by Abingdon Press). I would suggest both sides of this argument to take a closer look at this literary piece (Do not be in fear, those who do not trust the Bible...it consults both the Bible
and other evidence). There is more enclosed within this volume, which I have no time (right now) to share, but I shall if requested too, albeit on a later date.
Finally, I would like to announce that, with the exception of the aforementioned request, I shall be gone from this thread, for all of the following reasons:
-Are we really, "converting," each other to our side of thinking? No.
-Amongst other things, this thread breeds hatred and enemies within the Oddworld fan community. I'll wager some of you totally detest my very essence. I desire no enemies, and shall leave this thread, in an effort to halt their continued growth.
-I travel here for fun conversations relating with Oddworld and such. Instead, I find myself wrapped up in this mess. No thank you. I'll spend my time enjoying myself, thank you very much.
-My mind is constantly returning to this thread, when I should be focusing upon activities such as homework. As I desire to complete my aforementioned work, and complete it well, I must limit my distractions.
-Although they have seemingly since departed, I am sick and tired of individuals who fail to, and have no desire to, understand or tolerate my point of view. Whereas I have contemplated my opponents arguments, many deemed it a better hobby to riducule me. If we have a debate on a mature topic, I (for one) expect my fellow debaters to exhibit some maturity, as many of them have...but not all.
Anyway, cheers everyone...
*Footsteps fade.*
*As stated before, I disagree with them, but peacefully co-exist with them. Endorsing it would lead to a society in which I could be attacked and/or punished for simply disagreeing with them.
