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PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #31 08-04-2003, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by old and not so tasty
nondenominational is kind of a hodgepodge of different christian beliefs. They are the least judging kind.

Yeah, we are not restricted to or associated with a religious denomination.

SeaRex · #32 08-04-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by old and not so tasty
nondenominational is kind of a hodgepodge of different christian beliefs. They are the least judging kind.

Woot. I'm non-denominational! Let's here it for me!

Codek · #33 08-04-2003, 07:47 PM

Someone ought to make a religion and call it the "being nice to people" religion...

TheKhanzumer · #34 08-04-2003, 08:02 PM

I am a non-denominational Christian. I think most of you would call me Fundamentalist.

And non-demonitional is not a "hodgepodge". In fact, it is the original church that all the others are based off of. And often it is very judgemental, which is sadly evident in myself.

How many of you agree with me when I say there can only be one true religion or belief (evolution and all that is a belief too)? It doens't make sense that everyone is right. I grew up in the Church and have studied the Bible alot. Since the US is such a diverse place, I know about other beliefs. I don't know everything, but what I do know tells me that Christianity is the truth. But that doesn't mean I agree with all "christian" views. I try to be openminded, but the Church of Christ I have been raised in just makes so much more since than any other belief I have studied that I sometimes don't really listen to other peoples opinions. This means I am a very stubborn person, but I hope that if someone can prove to me I am wrong that they will take the time and consideration to do so. But that won't happen, I'm sure of it. But then again there is always room to grow.

A note to non-Christians. Please don't judge the religion by its members, including me. Find out for yourself whether or not it makes as much sense to you as it does me.

To evolutionists. Having studied evolution intensely at school and at church I can tell you this. There is no scientific PROOF that it ever happened. Only theory and interpretation of the facts. Don't just believe what scienctists tell you because there is a lot more information that they leave out. Study it for yourself, from a creationist stand point. You may or may not change your view, but at least you will understand both views.

Codek · #35 08-04-2003, 08:09 PM

I beleive in the theory that the reason all animals are shaped how they are is because it is the most energy efficient shape for what we do most often. For instance, if we spent more and more time in water of the next hundred thousand years, we would most probably adapt to it by developing a bodyshape that would allow us to do things more efficently.

But who controls this? What is to say that a higher being isn't in charge of mother nature?

I certainly beleive so.

OANST · #36 08-04-2003, 10:59 PM

All the nondenomitional people that I have met have been much less condemning then most. Maybe you are an exception. Maybe that is your problem. As for being a hodgepodge if every other religion is derived from yours then that would mean that it has elements of them all correct?

oddling · #37 08-05-2003, 01:05 AM

I see I'm the only wiccan here. GO AHEAD! BURN ME AT THE STAKE! YOU'LL NEVER CATCH ME ALIVE!!

Oddling l:c l

Codek · #38 08-05-2003, 01:16 AM

I've always found wiccans a bit immature about their beleifs. Bad experience probably, but I think it is a little far fetched.

OANST · #39 08-05-2003, 01:53 AM

Wicca is extremely far fetched. Its a cool religion. I mean I'd like to do magic. wouldn't you? Its a religion for people who want to be their own god.

Codek · #40 08-05-2003, 02:12 AM

Its a childish religion that makes people look stupid and sends mad people insane.

And it depends on what you call cool. Personally, I think that driving down sunset blvd in a Lamborghini Countache and teasing the cops with your far superior vehicle is cool. PERSONALLY I think playing a real life mock up splinter cell stealth game in an abandoned building with guns, nightvision and lots of smoke grenades is cool.

I don't think pretending you have magical powers is cool, I think it is childish.

Just my opinion, whatever turns you on, its your parogative, agree to differ, and other such lame statements that appear in the bestseller "how to be a teacher at a special school".

Facsimile · #41 08-05-2003, 03:34 AM

You should not say they are 'pretending to have magical powers'. I'm not saying what they do is real or not, but you shouldn't tell them what they believe is a childrens game.

TheKhanzumer · #42 08-05-2003, 04:00 AM

To respond to old and not so tasty.

I am glad most non-denominations you meet are less judging. I try hard not to be, but I do realize it is one of my problems. Luckily I have gotten a lot better than I used to be.

Also I didn't understand your second question? I think you asked that since I said all Christian religions are based off of the non-denominationals then wouldn't they all be correct? No, because denominations add man-made doctrine to God's word. So unless you believe that the man-made doctrines are indeed divine (which I don't) then they are not all correct.

Maybe I misunderstood you.

***Alcar*** · #43 08-05-2003, 04:35 AM

Even the Catholic religion has been changed. Even now, it is still backwards in its thinking. God loves us all, does he not? So, technically we are all loved by God, no matter who we are, or what we do.

Alcar...

***Wil*** · #44 08-05-2003, 06:47 AM

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And non-demonitional is not a "hodgepodge". In fact, it is the original church that all the others are based off of.

I find that hard to believe (no pun intended). Roman catholocism was the only major form of Christianity about up until the Great Schism of 1054. I'm saying you're wrong, but I'm quite sure that non-denominationalism must have been 'recovered'.

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How many of you agree with me when I say there can only be one true religion or belief (evolution and all that is a belief too)? It doens't make sense that everyone is right.

It doesn't make sense that everyone is right, but I don't personally think it should matter, as long as we're all happy with what we believe, and as long as what we believe makes us good people in society. I don't think any belief, religious or scientific, that pertains to answer such philosophical questions as 'How did the Universe come about?' or 'Where do our souls come from and go?' can ever be proved right in scientific or historical terms (by which I mean proved right and absolutely true, period). When it comes to religion, the only truth that matters is spiritual truth, which comes down to each person's own, well, spirituality - the religion proves itself to you, through miracle, RE or love.

As for religions that depend upon coolness, I really don't see the point. It's not like you actually believe anything other than your own abilities, unless you're all keeping something from me. That belief is important, but I wouldn't call it a religion (again, not until I know more about it).

TheKhanzumer · #45 08-05-2003, 01:24 PM

I know that Roman Catholocism is supposedly the original church, but that is not true. The apostles were not Roman catholics and never in the Bible is that term used. Therefore the earliest churches, started by the apostles after Jesus' resurrection, were not Roman Catholic. My church is non-denomination, meaning that we try our best to imitate and do exactly as the earliest churches did. Just like the churches in the Bible, we have full submersion baptisms, do not use musical instruments in worship and partake of the Lord's supper every Sunday.

I hope that clears my earlier responses things up a little.

Coolness religion? Oh man... that is so... narcissistic.

Jacob · #46 08-05-2003, 01:32 PM

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but you shouldn't tell them what they believe is a childrens game.

True. If you're gonna have that attitude then we might aswell say all Christians need the love of a big imaginary friend to make them feel whole...

TheKhanzumer · #47 08-05-2003, 02:27 PM

And that evolutionists want an excuse to do whatever they want, since we are just a strange type of primate with the illusion of morality.

And they don't even have and imaginary friend, just other monkeys.

Codek · #48 08-05-2003, 04:51 PM

I don't care whether you think I have an attitude. This is my opinion. And what makes your opinion MORE valid than my opinion all of a sudden?

God, just because it was negative doesn't mean I am not entitled to it.

Jacob · #49 08-05-2003, 04:59 PM

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And what makes your opinion MORE valid than my opinion all of a sudden?

Erm, i wasn't having a go at you and i wasn't saying my opinion was more valid.

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God, just because it was negative doesn't mean I am not entitled to it.

Thanx, i know it may seem as if i am...but my names Chris.

Codek · #50 08-05-2003, 05:19 PM

I meant god as an exclamation, I was in no way reffering to you as, nor would I ever call you, God.

Okay "Chris"?

Jacob · #51 08-05-2003, 06:10 PM

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I meant god as an exclamation, I was in no way reffering to you as, nor would I ever call you, God.

It's ok, you can call me God if you want. I wasn't saying you shouldn't. You don't have to apologise...you could call me Jesus aswell if you want.

Codek · #52 08-05-2003, 06:52 PM

I wasn't apologising, I was making it clear that I don't respect you enough to call you god.

TheKhanzumer · #53 08-05-2003, 07:05 PM

I probably should let you catch onto this by yourself Death but...

"Chris" is just egging you on on purpose.

BTW, Why did you chose the name Jacob, Chris? It seems very normal and most people would assume that is your real name.

Jacob · #54 08-05-2003, 07:27 PM

It's one of the Religious people isn't it? One of the spawns of Adam and Eve? And also, it reminds me of a "Jacobs ladder" on guys...

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I wasn't apologising, I was making it clear that I don't respect you enough to call you god.

Good, i don't like it when people who adore the ground i walk on apologise to me and take it too far. And i'm glad u don't respect me that much, but you respect me enough not to call me, but like i said, you can stop calling me God.

TheKhanzumer · #55 08-05-2003, 08:01 PM

In the Bible, Jacob was the son of Isaac and the brother of Esau. He tricked his older twin Esau out of his birthright by exchanging it for some lentil soup. Later Jacob recieved blessing his blind father intended for Esau, by wearing lamb fur so that his father would think he was his hairy older brother.

Jacob did other things, but I assume it was his trickyness you named yourself after.

Jacob · #56 08-05-2003, 08:24 PM

Yes. I didn't think he did anything else. What other shtuffs did he do?

OANST · #57 08-06-2003, 12:00 AM

I'm going way back in the thread for this one but death what I should have typed was "cool". I seriously get annoyed by all the trendy wiccans out there. Do you honestly believe that there is a half man half goat prancing around the woods protecting it? please say no wiccans. please say no wiccans. for your own good and intelligence. PLEASE!

MojoMan220 · #58 08-06-2003, 12:07 AM

Christian, but I think almost any religion could be the right one. I believe in God, but I'm skeptical about the specifics of religions. I don't know if that made any sense.

LuLu_Fund · #59 08-06-2003, 01:46 AM

Why is God referred to as "He" or "Him"? The term 'God' should have an exceptional reference.

I think I voted wrong on atheism and agnostic.... I'm not sure which one I am.... which is kinda ironic and confusing at the same time.

OANST · #60 08-06-2003, 02:36 AM

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but atheism is actually very stupid. Atheism is suposedly based on pure logic. They say that logically there is not a god. One of the main rules of logic however is that you can not prove a negative. You can't prove that something doesn't exist. Therefore by atheisms own belief system they are proved wrong. It is also just very close minded for people who are able to except the fact that there almost infinite possibilities in the universe.